Peruta v. San Diego is currently before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. The case involves a lawsuit filed against the city due to the sheriff's refusal to grant concealed carry permits for the purpose of self-defense. The argument of the city is that the sheriff's actions do not violate the Second Amendment because citizens are still allowed to carry an unloaded gun openly for self-defense. Cam Edwards speaks with Dave Kopel of the Independence Institute who wrote the amicus brief for the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association and for the Independence Institute explaining why carrying an unloaded gun is impractical for the purpose of self-defense. Originally aired 6/6/2011.